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xx hells paladin xx · Jan 23, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Ok i kinda quit TA for a bit to GvG and HA and ect. I was just wondering wat the Ta metagame is and wat is gonna be all over the place this weekend.

Tab · Jan 23, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Lots of scrubs running Shove spike. Should be easy glad points.

xx hells paladin xx · Jan 23, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

What is an easy build to roll the shove spike

Tab · Jan 23, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Anything aslong as you don't suck.

moko · Jan 23, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Steady Stance
possibly A/Mo
D/Mo tanks
Hexes
Warmonger
possibly Smiteway
Shoveway

Aera · Jan 23, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

I smell a lot of 2 rits 2 packhunters. And a LOOOOOT of shoveway.

Time to kick their asses

TheOneMephisto · Jan 23, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by xx hells paladin xx

What is an easy build to roll the shove spike

Anything with a ranger. Aura of stability on the ranger just makes it easy-mode though.

Sun Fired Blank · Jan 23, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50

The whole gamut you can expect from decent groups:

1) Balanced

The most generic form is a shock axe, magebane, anti-melee necro, monk; but frankly, the shock axe can be replaced by any frontline, and the anti-melee necro is more of a flex slot for anything you want. Paragons are a recent but very popular choice for the flex slot, ebon dust is relatively popular again, and some very good groups use derv healers every now and again. Or if everything else fails, another physical frontliner. Some groups on a cripanthem para use a ranger focused on degen to spread conditions.

2) Lameway

Post-nerf, I don't consider it quite so powerful; a strong balanced group has a very good chance of winning, but you can expect a lot of people to run it, and some groups make it as close to an art form as you can expect.

3) Gothspike / Monkspike

The strength of gothspike is roughly the strength of the people that run it; a lot of scrubs fail it for some reason, but a decent gothspike group is likely to drag out a match, and it's very close to autowin on certain maps. A handful of very strong players run it.

4) Zergway Lite

Post-nerf, I doubt anyone is going to bother to run triple steady stancer setups, but I could be wrong.

5) Hex Overload

Hex overload builds are popular now, they're kind of nasty. They often get a sizeable amount of damage from a single frontliner (often a dervish) or by using several casters with nasty spikes (Toxic Chill / Augury, Enchanter's Conundrum + Shatter), but sometimes, they just stack hexes until you detonate.

6) Barbs + Pet Abuse

Probably not so frequent because it loses quite badly to gothspike and hexway, but can outright smash even highly competent lameway and balanced groups.

7) Blitzes

Various blitzes are popular now; A/Mo or E/A (Ride the Lightning, Savannah Heat) are the most popular forms, but some very skilled groups can pull a blitz on a physical setup with a strong ranger and a flex slot.

8) Paragon Teams

Every so often, some people figure out some way to construct a solid four paragon team; but each one is rather nuanced.

9) Other Spikes

Most other spikes are just inferior to Gothspike, but you can probably expect ride the lightning spikes, rainbow spikes (pure caster, or leading with a physical), the very rare mesmer spike and ritualist spikes.

10) Other Builds

HcH runs an exhaustion build that relies on Equinox, Arcane Languor and Disrupting Stab -> Exhausting Assault -> Moebius Strike. BaKe often runs a grasping build that has a surprising amount of pressure and spike potential. I think DVD runs a mixed spike that leads on a wounding strike / way of the master sin. And if anything else comes to mind, I might fire off another post.

Riotgear · Jan 24, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by xx hells paladin xx

What is an easy build to roll the shove spike

Anything with Aura of Stability.

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Like this person.

Ugh.

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Originally Posted by Aera

I smell a lot of 2 rits 2 packhunters. And a LOOOOOT of shoveway.

This is correct.

I'm predicting a lot of PvE scrub PUGs getting farmed too.

damocles · Jan 24, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57

I guess we'll just see the usual crap multiplied by 10.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 25, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I'm going to be running a modded hexway this weekend.

tamirxd · Jan 25, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

What is Gothspike?

Sun Fired Blank · Jan 25, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Monkspike / Gothspike thread.

Divinus Stella · Jan 25, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

I think it'll mostly be scrubs playing hex's, also a lot of warmongers, anything thats easy.

erk · Jan 26, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Lots of scrub teams coming through from RA, Mystic Regen, Shadow Form, and Spirt Spammers. You probably wont see that many TA teams compared to what's from RA.

/EDIT Atm there are 2 American Districts active in TA and 7 in RA full of players.

yum · Jan 26, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Sun Fired Blank

BaKe often runs a grasping build that has a surprising amount of pressure and spike potential.

The original build is 1 trap 1 grasp 1 thump 1 rit/heal (not Bake)

2 rits 2 packs with warmonger is nothing. 2 rits 2 packs and brutal is another story

SO far I have:

Shove
Hexes
2 rits
some kind of nub spike (blitz if u like to call it so)
LAG